Fascinating! And it makes sense, what with Ghawd being a tax-free, Capitalistic kind of guy. For those with time constraints, here's what the article says an indulgence is:
"According to church teaching, even after sinners are absolved in the confessional and say their Our Fathers or Hail Marys as penance, they still face punishment after death, in Purgatory, before they can enter heaven. In exchange for certain prayers, devotions or pilgrimages in special years, a Catholic can receive an indulgence, which reduces or erases that punishment instantly, with no formal ceremony or sacrament.
"There are partial indulgences, which reduce purgatorial time by a certain number of days or years, and plenary indulgences, which eliminate all of it. You can get one for yourself, or for someone else, living or dead. You cannot buy one — the church outlawed the sale of indulgences in 1857 — but charitable contributions, combined with other acts, can help you earn one. There is a limit of one plenary indulgence per sinner per day."
There have never quit being indulgences, so I don't know what all the fuss is about; any decent Catholic reference work will tell you the conditions for earning an indulgence. (The one a day limit is basically because one of the conditions is usually that goes to Confession and receive the Eucharist, and you aren't supposed to receive the Eucharist, ordinarily, more than once per day.)
Allan posted at the other site about this post (telling nags to high-tail it over here and "avoiding statsis" said something about it being too hard to respond here to bother with it. Mel came back with "Why would you want to post somewhere you’re not wanted" my instant response was "never stopped her before" but i shut my mouth and clicked the back arrow.
btw does anyone else remember when brentmann left the shelf in a huff because verb and tree had a clique all to themselves and no one else was allowed in? he all but samped his foot and called for his mommy. but i guess he's sort of right now huh? it really could be the theraflu talking though, so forgive me if this is inane babbling.
Yes, but in defense of BrentMann, he once said I was "handsome", so any and all his sins are forgiven.
But anyway, buying one's way out of trouble is likely the world's oldest transaction. The Catholic Church is upfront about it, so are good lawyers. And Bert once told me how he employed the tactic in evading his first wife's knowledge that he often engaged in the world's oldest profession.
"Mel came back with "Why would you want to post somewhere you’re not wanted" my instant response was "never stopped her before" but i shut my mouth and clicked the back arrow."
"You know what … I just don’t like how I’m getting in here, Carolyn, and I am so sorry this kind of unkind prattle comes out of me. It’s becoming painful to witness.
You are so gifted, so lively and so blessed. Please find a way to seek kinder dailies for yourself."
Okay, so when did sarai and Carolyn start loving one another again. Did Old Bag Nolo have abreakdown awhile back beacuse Four wouldn't visit her? And since when are her ramblings of a sweeter, kinder variety?
Thank God this is all under "Good news for sinners"!
nagual4a Says: February 10th, 2009 at 7:31 pm edit Can’t post over there. would one of you relay this?
“Alright…so Verbqueen MISSES ME. She cant live without the old Nagual.
She’s got the fever.
I have heard your cry Verbqueen (well Vanda told me about it).
I will give you a minor update of my doings before dealing with you rabid anticatholicism.
While I type this I am finishing the 22nd 100megabytedownload of a massive graphics program that may allow me to utilize a dongle I have to transform all my old vhs tapes into digital. Last evening for $14 dollars I purchased a 2.6Ghz machine with 40gig HD and put in 1GB of ram (I have another half a GB of RAM but apparently verbqueen needs that). That was not a typo…I said $14…and Verbqueen needs some RAM.
I have buckets of other technocrap which I will eventually put together in some sort of Dr.Evil system.
Indulgences are not much worth getting bent about. Indulgences funded the Rennaisance and drug you halfwits out of the dark ages.
Jilly, quit gossipping. I’m aware that is spelled wrong but it wont change.
i can't stop geing a petty gossip, it's really in my DNA, ask some people who've met me. However, i am mostly harmless and i admit it.
the bad spelling makes me twitch, but i'll survive. i spend 8 hours a day with people who really believe that ole' Abe Lincolin was the first black president of the US, can you blame me for nitpicking over spelling?
Jilly, It's interesting you say that because ole Raga was on a tear about all of us being mean and cited us making fun of the Springfield/Springsteen/Springsteinpost as evidence. She also rants that the only reason she "peaks" over here at this blog is because you post here. uh huh, sure.
Please educate this woman on the matter: The reason why Saria's post was hilarious is because
1. She posted it about four times, and all the "nolo"s "oofs" "Boy George"s AND all of her blatherings about how wonderful Carolyn and all the people who post over there are, and what bitches we are. It reminded me of the old "NICE BOARDS" where people went to be nice and complain about the people who posted on the old Boards. Sheesh.
And while I'm at it, Old Al calls us the "old Hags" He's a good 15 years older than most of us who visit here. What's the male equilavent of an old hag? I looked it up . . . it's an Allan Kilgour.
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Fascinating! And it makes sense, what with Ghawd being a tax-free, Capitalistic kind of guy. For those with time constraints, here's what the article says an indulgence is:
"According to church teaching, even after sinners are absolved in the confessional and say their Our Fathers or Hail Marys as penance, they still face punishment after death, in Purgatory, before they can enter heaven. In exchange for certain prayers, devotions or pilgrimages in special years, a Catholic can receive an indulgence, which reduces or erases that punishment instantly, with no formal ceremony or sacrament.
"There are partial indulgences, which reduce purgatorial time by a certain number of days or years, and plenary indulgences, which eliminate all of it. You can get one for yourself, or for someone else, living or dead. You cannot buy one — the church outlawed the sale of indulgences in 1857 — but charitable contributions, combined with other acts, can help you earn one. There is a limit of one plenary indulgence per sinner per day."
I don't get the one a day limit...
There have never quit being indulgences, so I don't know what all the fuss is about; any decent Catholic reference work will tell you the conditions for earning an indulgence. (The one a day limit is basically because one of the conditions is usually that goes to Confession and receive the Eucharist, and you aren't supposed to receive the Eucharist, ordinarily, more than once per day.)
Allan posted at the other site about this post (telling nags to high-tail it over here and "avoiding statsis" said something about it being too hard to respond here to bother with it. Mel came back with "Why would you want to post somewhere you’re not wanted" my instant response was "never stopped her before" but i shut my mouth and clicked the back arrow.
btw does anyone else remember when brentmann left the shelf in a huff because verb and tree had a clique all to themselves and no one else was allowed in? he all but samped his foot and called for his mommy. but i guess he's sort of right now huh? it really could be the theraflu talking though, so forgive me if this is inane babbling.
jilly
Interesting.
And just what is so "not pretty" about my post, anyway? Just a link to an interesting NYT article.
Guess I should have made it more colorful and maybe added a few flowers and frills. :D
Allan is just trying to rile ol' Nag up. But it won't work, because Nag already knows you're all GAY!
Yes, but in defense of BrentMann, he once said I was "handsome", so any and all his sins are forgiven.
But anyway, buying one's way out of trouble is likely the world's oldest transaction. The Catholic Church is upfront about it, so are good lawyers. And Bert once told me how he employed the tactic in evading his first wife's knowledge that he often engaged in the world's oldest profession.
It's a forgiving, if costly, world.
"Mel came back with "Why would you want to post somewhere you’re not wanted" my instant response was "never stopped her before" but i shut my mouth and clicked the back arrow."
You crack me up Jilly
Is BrentMan the one who wrote about one hit wonders?
He must have had insight . . . You all know that verbie and tree are dangerous chicks
"You know what … I just don’t like how I’m getting in here, Carolyn, and I am so sorry this kind of unkind prattle comes out of me. It’s becoming painful to witness.
You are so gifted, so lively and so blessed. Please find a way to seek kinder dailies for yourself."
Okay, so when did sarai and Carolyn start loving one another again. Did Old Bag Nolo have abreakdown awhile back beacuse Four wouldn't visit her? And since when are her ramblings of a sweeter, kinder variety?
Thank God this is all under "Good news for sinners"!
nagual4a Says:
February 10th, 2009 at 7:31 pm edit
Can’t post over there. would one of you relay this?
“Alright…so Verbqueen MISSES ME. She cant live without the old Nagual.
She’s got the fever.
I have heard your cry Verbqueen (well Vanda told me about it).
I will give you a minor update of my doings before dealing with you rabid anticatholicism.
While I type this I am finishing the 22nd 100megabytedownload of a massive graphics program that may allow me to utilize a dongle I have to transform all my old vhs tapes into digital. Last evening for $14 dollars I purchased a 2.6Ghz machine with 40gig HD and put in 1GB of ram (I have another half a GB of RAM but apparently verbqueen needs that). That was not a typo…I said $14…and Verbqueen needs some RAM.
I have buckets of other technocrap which I will eventually put together in some sort of Dr.Evil system.
Indulgences are not much worth getting bent about. Indulgences funded the Rennaisance and drug you halfwits out of the dark ages.
Jilly, quit gossipping. I’m aware that is spelled wrong but it wont change.
Vanda is an idiot.
Bert is an idiot.
Was I banned from this board?
How are you all?”
HI Naggypoo
i can't stop geing a petty gossip, it's really in my DNA, ask some people who've met me. However, i am mostly harmless and i admit it.
the bad spelling makes me twitch, but i'll survive. i spend 8 hours a day with people who really believe that ole' Abe Lincolin was the first black president of the US, can you blame me for nitpicking over spelling?
Jilly
Jilly,
It's interesting you say that because ole Raga was on a tear about all of us being mean and cited us making fun of the Springfield/Springsteen/Springsteinpost as evidence.
She also rants that the only reason she "peaks" over here at this blog is because you post here. uh huh, sure.
Please educate this woman on the matter: The reason why Saria's post was hilarious is because
1. She posted it about four times, and all the "nolo"s "oofs" "Boy George"s AND all of her blatherings about how wonderful Carolyn and all the people who post over there are, and what bitches we are.
It reminded me of the old "NICE BOARDS" where people went to be nice and complain about the people who posted on the old Boards. Sheesh.
And while I'm at it, Old Al calls us the "old Hags" He's a good 15 years older than most of us who visit here. What's the male equilavent of an old hag? I looked it up . . . it's an Allan Kilgour.
i'm 26, so allan is closer to being an old hag than i am. i guess i'm a young hag. allan can be the grand daddy of all hags.
allan is an old fart. no doubt about it.
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